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Conversation with Ying Wu

Dear Readers,

The following conversation took place this morning via IM with a friend in China. We have had conversations in the past and I felt that the import of this particular event would be of interest to all of you who follow my work. Ying Wu is a school teacher and her English is excellent. It is also curious to me that most of the rest of the world outside of the United States is taught English at a very early age. Also curious is that we don’t follow suit and teach our young how to communicate with the rest of the world. But that is matter for another time.

As always, I welcome your comments.

Ying Wu: Hello, Stephen

Hanshi: Hello and how have you been?

Ying Wu: Good, and you?

Hanshi: Busy working on my projects and staying in good health.

Ying Wu: Cool. You always have a rich life. What project are you working on? If I may know.

Hanshi: One would think so. I have a new book coming out possibly in the spring that should do very well.

Ying Wu: Wow, congratulations!

Hanshi: It is a republication of my Zen and the Art of Stickfighting. The new publisher is very excited about it and thinks it will be a large success. That would be very nice indeed.

Ying Wu: That’s really a great news.

Hanshi: I also have a few other titles with different publishers that I think will also be accepted for publication in the very near future.

Ying Wu: Does ‘SRA’ belong to your zen?

Hanshi: SRA [Self-Revealization Acceptance] is a specifically differently oriented self-empowerment book, but you might say that it also has connections to zen because of the universal approach to consciousness.

Ying Wu: I see. It’s a nice book.

Hanshi: Nice is an interesting way to put it. I never thought of it as “nice.” Many people consider it to be very deep and requiring much thought and contemplation before some of the ideas can easily be understood. I am sure you know what I am talking about.

Ying Wu: Maybe many people say nice for appearance, but I regard it as a rich content.

Hanshi: Ah, thank you. Actually it could be considered a nice book if the person reading it begins to change their life for the better without any pain or discomfort.

Ying Wu: It’s a good book to read, but I think it’s not that easy to do so, such as when faced with making decisions.

Hanshi: I have also finished the second book in the SRA series, 52 Weekly Self-Revealization Acceptances for Personal Ascension, but as of yet have not published it. Making decisions is difficult because of the fear of what will happen, good or bad. The older one gets, the more reluctant a person is to make a commitment to change. People become set in their ways and are reluctant to have to deal with what may be considered major inconveniences. It is very hard to accept a new version of yourself when you are stuck in the middle of your insecurities. Everyone deals with the same exact situation and sometimes it is necessary to simply drop whatever one is doing and just jump in and see what happens as a result of their move.

Ying Wu: Yes, and I think because of the difference in mind or concept, so it makes difficulty. I think people there are more independent and have much more own life. Here, sometimes we may consider too much, which becomes an obstacle, or you may say we are not brave enough.

Hanshi: Bravery is something that each person has to come face to face with and sometimes the pain that comes along with that is too overwhelming. If you are talking about societal restriction, that is another matter altogether. Certain societies restrict their own people from expressing the greater good that they can experience and that is also because of the need for the governing agencies to maintain control.

Ying Wu: You mean social restriction.

Hanshi: Definitely social restriction, and you know exactly what I mean.

Ying Wu: Yes, I see. That kind of restriction is good to keep everything in place.

Hanshi: Social restriction is based on controlling agencies not being secure in their own philosophy and, therefore, create difficulty for minds to expand and become universal. Not necessarily good to keep all things in place. If there is morality within the structure of the ruling class, then it will seep into the minds of the general masses and they will understand the wisdom of the ruling class and be glad to join in. When there is dissension among the masses and they are looking for advancement and the ruling class restricts that movement, again, it is based on the inability of the ruling class to express their motives without fear of losing control. The best way to control is without forcing restriction. Forcing restriction only makes the people think of ways to get around it, and if they are unable to do that, eventually they will rebel, and if they can’t do that, they will fall into the malaise of not cooperating, even though they are giving the appearance of doing so.

Ying Wu: I see your meaning, sorta like what a teacher forces a student to do something or not to do something.

Hanshi: Once students are told what they have to learn in order to function in the structure of the class, and they are cooperative to the extent that they are willing to put in the time to learn, then the job of the teacher is that much simpler because they are helping the student to understand the value of the work they are studying. Most times, social systems insist that people do what they are told to do without good cause and this results in superficial understanding of the problems that must be dealt with. This causes a breakdown in the educational system as well because the information is watered down before it can become true knowledge.

Ying Wu: Hmm, yes, the key for teacher is to lead or inspire the students to learn, not forcing. And we mostly get the watered down knowledge first. Only the great man would really do deep study. Like we would learn to use cellphone or computer, but few people would care what makes it.

Hanshi: It is not necessarily a great man that would continue to do deep study, but the inquisitive mind that foresees learning to be advantageous for mankind in general and then being able to perform the act of teaching for the benefit of all concerned, which would enhance to perspective of the entire world, not just a small segment of the society that spawns ideas for their own self-gratification.

Ying Wu: So it benefits not only for individual but also for society.

Hanshi: This is the only way it will ever work correctly for everyone’s advantage. To do something only for your own advantage is a waste of time. Nonetheless, the teacher is entitled to compensation for the depth of study and output that he has put into getting the information out to the public and then showing them the manner in which to turn that information into knowledge.

Ying Wu: I see. Here’s a saying that ‘a teacher should have a bucket of water before giving a glass of water to students.’

Hanshi: Good example. When the bucket is full and the teacher continues to give to the students, Heaven opens up the faucet to give ever more to the teacher so that the teacher can continue to give to the students. And so it goes until the students themselves begin to teach others. And so the cycle continues until the needs of the universe are filled, which can never happen. It is the only way that humanity can come to terms with its own majesty.

Ying Wu: Yes. What makes you can write so much? How does your inspiration come? By reading or thought from your personal experience?

Hanshi: I no longer think about that, but rather continue to know more about the universe and the creative power therein that reveals its true self to me for its own reason. Certainly it is aware of the pain and torment that has gone into my searching and the difficulties with living among men of lesser minds, not that they are lesser, but rather that they are afraid to pursue the highest reality that can ever exist: their own beings. I had once thought that I was special in that I was being given knowledge that was unique to me, but eventually learned that the knowledge I have is the very same that all men have if they will pursue the contemplation of their own magnificence. I think now I will take a rest and get on with my day’s work. I will speak with you again. Bye for now.

Ying Wu: OK, it’s nice talking to you. Have a great day!

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